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Nian Banks
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Posted - 2007.01.28 04:15:00 -
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How about a new ship class based off an industrial hull thats a true "startrek" science vessel, as in you can perform research on it in deep space (<0.4). Allow this vessel to research time efficiency, material research and blueprint copying. Give it the same set effieciency as a player owned pos and allow it to only research one thing at a time, perhaps having it take 50% longer to research but give a ship bonus that at level 5 gives you 100% research speed.
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Nian Banks
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Posted - 2007.01.29 02:04:00 -
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Yeah I was just thinking that a science vessel would be a large lumbering craft thats almost akin to a flying station than a space ship. Industrials seem to fit the bill, then again so do mining barges, and they fit the looks too. Bricks in space. Actually I definately vote for new tech2 science crafts based on mining barge hulls.
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Nian Banks
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Posted - 2007.01.30 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara
Originally by: Nian Banks Yeah I was just thinking that a science vessel would be a large lumbering craft thats almost akin to a flying station than a space ship. Industrials seem to fit the bill, then again so do mining barges, and they fit the looks too. Bricks in space. Actually I definately vote for new tech2 science crafts based on mining barge hulls.
Which would make them as vulnerable in low sec as a mining op, which people daren't do anyway!
I see your point but in the interests of the things actually being used popularly, they need to be small and somewhat adept escapologists.
Well then perhaps give them the ability to use cloaks? Its a science vessel, it should be pritty advanced.
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Nian Banks
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Posted - 2007.01.30 23:07:00 -
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Edited by: Nian Banks on 30/01/2007 23:05:42
Quote: It was always a possibility, although that would at least double their price with the current costs of cloaks
As for the size, not sure really, IMPO I don't see why they'd be large at all, but this is just my opinion and some feedback would be nice.
Large and cloakable and/or agile, small and uncloakable/cloakable or however. At least there are a few people agreeing with me that it'd be a nice addition to the available ships.
I dunno, when I think of a science research ship I think of ships like the one in Alien Resurrection, a flying space station more than a space ship. Big lumbering thing with the space to do meaningful research. also about cloaks and the cost doubling the ships overall cost, I wouldn't expect a ship that is used for material efficiency or time efficiency research to give much change from 100m isk. But thats just my own idea on the thing.
All I can see is that such a vessel would give up and comming bpo owning industrialists the opportunity to research their bpo's and be competative in todays eve market.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.01 01:58:00 -
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Ah your talking about an expedition probe ship? as in a cruiser sized probe vessel? That would be sweet also.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.01 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Erim Solfara
Originally by: Nian Banks Ah your talking about an expedition probe ship? as in a cruiser sized probe vessel? That would be sweet also.
Actually, I'm talking about the frigate sized probe vessel that I described in the original post...
Lol, thats what I get for starting to reply to a thread when I am half asleep.
Anyway I like your idea but perhaps it would be better to just reinclude the missing amarr ship and then think t2 probe launching cruiser? :) There are so many t2 frigates and all are good, tho I wouldn't object to a t2 astrometrics frigates I would so much love to have a cruiser do that. The amarr need their t1 variant to be allowable (if its too good then nerf it a little as a standard model) but lets think bigger. :)
Oh and my misdirected off topic comments still apply as a damned sweet idea (so I think...)
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.03 00:26:00 -
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Ok lets look at it seriously then, amarr definately need a tech1 astrometrics frigate, thats a certainty. However to create it you will need to perform balancing which will take a little while, not a 5 minute job but should be done anyway.
Once we have that you would like a tech2 astrometrics frigate class, to create this new class of vessel you will need to nerf the current covert ops frigates, you would have no reason for your science vessel if you didn't pidgeon hole the covert ops ships a bit more, given that you need to do this then the devs will need to create and balance the new tech2 frigates then modify and rebalance the covert ops frigates. Which I am afraid to say isn't going to be a 5 minute job either. Not to forget that the players who currently use covert ops frigates wouldn't be too pleased.
Realistically with the amount of work required and the already existing covert ops frigates the neiche you are looking for would almost certainly be better put into a cruiser sized vessel. The time for development would probably be about the same amount and it would give a meaningful ship type to the world of eve. Remember there are no cruiser sized astrometrics vessels, all other ideas on speed, reduced damage and the like are still valid.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.04 02:17:00 -
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As I said before, you can always make your own thread for your ship. I'm still sticking to my lasers.
Ah well in that case we may aswell of made the thread locked before anyone had time to comment as your opening must be the be all and end all with no need for a comment or discussion!
You do realise that the devs even commented people make a thread and reply to everything till they get the proverbial pat on the back, the devs even said they usually ignore most of those threads as they were pointless. Food for thought maybe. And nope aint making a thread for a cruiser sized astrometrics ship as I have made the point in this thread and I doubt the devs would read mine any more than yours. lol.
Think of it this way if the devs were to make a new set of ships, the votes would be far more in favor of a new destroyer for each race. Sad but true.
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Nian Banks
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.02.05 00:42:00 -
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Edited by: Nian Banks on 05/02/2007 00:42:24 Heres the thing tho, it needs increased cpu & pg, it needs increased armor and or shield, increased cargo bay, increased capacitor output, and yes its got to be fast, but then if a ships got no offensive capability making something larger than a frigate fast and agile isn't a problem, so heres the last crunch... with all that added your going to wind up with either a way overpowered frigate or a normal cruiser (lol), now next point is its got to fill a need and purpose and preferable a unique one. With Covert Ops your purpose for frigate size goes away with the faries, sure you can do a bit of your bonus jiggery-pokery but is unlikely that the idea would ever see the light of day. Realy the only reason you have thats valid and also not overly popular in the capita head is the role play concept, I doubt thats enough of a reason. Now as for amarr needing a tech1 astrometrics frig, yes thats fair and should be done almost immediately, what a woeful oversight. I feal for the amarr...
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